In this revealing episode, Vern Nicholson pulls back the curtain on what it’s really like to work inside two of the franchise industry’s most celebrated marketing agencies — the ones that dominate “Top Supplier” lists year after year. Through candid storytelling and firsthand experience, Vern shares the highs, lows, and hard lessons learned in environments driven by ego, rapid growth, and private equity pressures. Listeners will get an insider’s look at how agency culture, structure, and technology impact franchise growth — from the burnout of global outsourcing to the breakthroughs of unified collaboration. Vern contrasts those experiences with how Vet-tro Media was intentionally built differently: 95% of the team working in one facility, leveraging curated data and AI-driven insights to fuel smarter, measurable results. Packed with transparency, strategy, and hard truths, this episode is both a tell-all and a blueprint for franchisors ready to demand more — from their agencies, their data, and their results.
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Welcome to Franchise Fuel: Smarter Growth. I’m Vern Nicholson, Vice President of Vet-tro Media, author, and your host. Every episode, we pull back the curtain on what’s really driving franchise growth — the strategies, the stories, and the lessons that separate strong brands from struggling ones.
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First off, thank you for joining me. Whether you’re a franchisor, a marketing leader, or just someone passionate about smarter, more transparent growth — I appreciate you being here. This episode is a little different. It’s personal. It’s my tell-all experience working for two of the so-called “premiere” franchise marketing agencies in the industry.
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You’ve probably heard of the two full-service franchise marketing agencies I’m talking about. They’re the ones always topping the charts — “Best Franchise Suppliers,” “Top Agency Partners,” the kind of names you see in Entrepreneur Magazine. But this isn’t about name dropping or finger pointing. It’s about pulling back the curtain on what it’s really like to work inside two of the so-called premier agencies, from the boardroom buzz to the behind-the-scenes burnout.
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Both companies had big reputations and even bigger expectations. One specialized in established brands with deep budgets, while the other carved out its niche working with emerging franchises and helping scrappy founders find their first hundred leads.
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At some point, both landed private equity backing, and that’s when things really started to shift. Culture changed. After seeing both sides, I realized how rare it is to find an agency that blends scale, innovation, and culture.
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That’s why Vet-tro Media was built differently. We don’t rely on layers of outsourcing or remote silos. Ninety-five percent of our team works under one roof, collaborating every day. Strategists, designers, and analysts sit side by side, solving problems together in real time.
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We’ve built our foundation on curated data and advanced AI-driven technology that lets us see deeper into campaign performance — not just surface metrics but real lead behavior and conversion intent. That combination of human collaboration and machine intelligence is what allows us to deliver results that are measurable, scalable, and transparent.
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So as I tell you this story, the good, the bad, and the ugly, know that I’ve seen what happens when systems fail and what’s possible when the right team and technology come together. That’s where Vet-tro Media stands apart.
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Coming up next, I’ll share what it felt like to go from an energetic in-office culture to a global remote reality and how those experiences shaped my perspective on leadership and collaboration.
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The first digital marketing agency I worked with was all about an in-person culture. We had that buzz — brainstorms, whiteboards, outings, and yes, plenty of wine. I watched that team grow from about forty people to nearly a hundred across multiple continents.
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We were expanding fast with SEO and development in the Philippines, account management in South Africa, and advanced dev in India. It was impressive but came with growing pains.
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The second agency was the opposite. It was lean, remote, and laser-focused. Fewer than fifty people, mostly senior specialists and long-term freelancers. There wasn’t much fluff or hand-holding.
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Both models had strengths. The global team brought scalability, but communication often broke down. The smaller shop had a stronger focus but limited capacity.
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The difference with Vet-tro Media is that 95 percent of your team works in one place, and collaboration doesn’t depend on Slack or time zones. It happens in real time. Ideas evolve faster. Accountability is clear. And the results show it. That’s a culture that scales without losing its soul.
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I’ll get real about the perks, the pressure, and the fine line between celebration and burnout.
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Let’s be honest, there were perks. Big ones. I managed a portfolio worth over a million dollars. I traveled to franchise conferences, met incredible brand leaders. One company went first class on everything — the best hotels, the best food, even summer golf Fridays.
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Both gave me experiences I’ll never forget, but behind the smiles and “Supplier of the Year” awards, the pressure was intense. Deadlines, competition, constant performance demands — it could wear you down.
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That’s why I appreciate what we’ve built at Vet-tro Media. We’ve created a space where excellence and balance can actually coexist. We celebrate wins, but we also protect our people. When your team works together under one roof, connected by shared goals and supported by AI-driven efficiency, pressure turns into performance — not burnout.
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Next, I’ll talk about deliverables, discipline, and the disillusionment that comes when you realize not all “top agencies” play at the same level.
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If there’s one thing I learned, it’s that not all top agencies perform equally.
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One of them delivered work that was crisp, polished, and on time every time. The other demanded deep technical knowledge — understanding FDDs, site selection, and geotargeting — the details that make or break franchise expansion.
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Both taught me something valuable. One refined my storytelling and creativity. The other sharpened my technical and strategic thinking.
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By the time I left both, I could see their DNA clearly. One was a master of automation and analytics, the other excelled in creative and onboarding.
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That’s why Vet-tro Media was designed to sit at the intersection of both worlds. Our curated data and in-house collaboration give us precision with heart — the accuracy of automation and the emotion of creative storytelling. We’re not chasing trends. We’re creating them.
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In the final chapter, I’ll share my takeaways — what every franchisor needs to know before they choose their next agency partner.
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If you’re a franchisor listening to this, here’s my honest advice.
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Never let your agency tell you you’re still in a “learning phase” without showing you the data. Ask for metrics, accountability, and an actual plan, not excuses.
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Make sure your SEO, paid media, content, creative, and client success teams talk to each other. Collaboration isn’t optional; it’s essential.
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Every deliverable should have a clear timeline and full transparency. And remember, you should always own your assets — your ad accounts, your creative, your data.
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Adopt a video-first mindset. Measure success by first-click attribution, not just form fills. Prioritize lead quality over quantity, and let AI help you nurture those leads intelligently.
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If your 2025 results felt flat, it’s time for a second opinion. At Vet-tro Media, we offer a no-cost marketing audit powered by curated data, AI-driven insights, and a unified in-house team. That combination makes our strategies more predictive and our results more sustainable.
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Because at the end of the day, experience teaches you a lot, but transparency, technology, and teamwork are what truly fuel smarter growth.
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And that’s it for this episode of Franchise Fuel: Smarter Growth.
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If today’s tell-all gave you a new perspective on what’s really happening behind the scenes at franchise marketing agencies — or got you thinking about where your own marketing could be stronger — I’d love to hear from you.
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Go ahead and like, share, and drop a comment wherever you’re listening. Tell me what resonated with you most — was it the culture shift, the lessons learned, or the way technology and teamwork truly drive results?
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And if you’re a franchisor or marketing leader who’s wondering whether your current strategy is really working as hard as it should, let’s talk. At Vetro Media, we’re offering a free, no-obligation marketing audit and strategy session to help you uncover what’s working, what’s not, and where the biggest opportunities lie for 2026 growth.
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Visit vet-tro media usa dot com to schedule your session.
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Thanks for tuning in to Franchise Fuel: Smarter Growth. Until next time, keep pushing for clarity, creativity, and smarter growth in everything you do.
About the podcast
Franchise Fuel: Smarter Growth explores how AI technology, smart algorithms, CRM integration, and quality lead generation drive modern franchise expansion. Tune in for expert insights, tools, and strategies to ignite scalable, data-driven growth.